[MAGEEC] Hello, and question from a newbie to the list

Wed Sep 30 09:59:01 BST 2015

Hi Trupti,

As the MAGEEC part of the TSERO project is still in the early stages,
there is no documentation currently available. I am in the process of
writing the design document detailing the changes which are being made
to the MAGEEC design and this should be available relatively soon.

There will be a public wiki up in the near future, however in the
meantime the most relevant material is that for the original MAGEEC
project. The overall architecture of MAGEEC is not going to change
substantially, so any resources are still reasonably relevant.

I'm very interested in finding applications for training and
benchmarking MAGEEC; As part of the development process, we will be
testing the TSERO updated MAGEEC on desktop application sized programs
to verify that it works before scaling up to HPC. We do not yet have a
benchmark suite for this, but I am planning to do something similar to
the BEEBS used in the original project.

It is worth noting that I do not expect the TSERO MAGEEC design to be in
a functional state for another month or so.

Thank you,
Edward Jones

On 24/09/15 17:54, Trupti Kulkarni wrote:
> Dear Jeremy,
> 
> Thank you for answering my queries and forwarding my email to Mr. Edward Jones. 
> 
> Hello Edward,
> 
> Thank you for your message. I am happy to note that TSERO is being developed to work with both desktop and HPC applications. I, via my company/project, would be really interested in getting involved, by way of providing applications that you may use for training programs. I will be meeting with the other lead managers of this project at an event in early-October, and will appraise them of the situation and work out how we can approach you best. 
> In order to help me with that, can you point me to any TSERO material (online pdfs, videos etc.), or wiki that your project may have? 
> 
> I look forward to hearing from you. 
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> Trupti Kulkarni
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mageec [mailto:mageec-bounces at mageec.org] On Behalf Of Ed Jones
> Sent: 23 September 2015 09:26
> To: jeremy.bennett at embecosm.com; High End Compute; MAchine Guided Energy Efficient Compilation
> Subject: Re: [MAGEEC] Hello, and question from a newbie to the list
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am the one working on the TSERO project which is the follow-on project for MAGEEC.
> 
> The original MAGEEC project was aimed at optimizing compilers for energy usage on embedded systems, however the technique should work at any scale from embedded to desktop to HPC. At the moment MAGEEC mainly works as a plugin for GCC, however there is also a MAGEEC enable version of LLVM.
> 
> MAGEEC is generic, and it can be used for things other than energy optimization on embedded systems. It will be harder to apply MAGEEC to other domains at the moment, as training the system requires a large number of representative training programs appropriate for the target domain. For the original project BEEBS was used, but the programs in this suite are all small embedded programs, so they will not be much use if optimizing for a desktop program.
> 
> For the TSERO project, we will be sourcing a new set of training programs, which should be more suitable to desktop and HPC applications.
> We also aim to make the framework easier to use, and more applicable to compilers other than just GCC and LLVM.
> 
> Feel free to e-mail me with any questions you have, or I'd be happy to meet up to discuss things.
> 
> Thank you,
> Edward Jones
> 
> 
> On 22/09/15 15:51, Jeremy Bennett wrote:
>> On 22/09/15 15:40, High End Compute wrote:
>>> I'd like to hear tsiro details too please
>>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I've asked Ed to provide a short email summarizing the TSERO project.
>>  If you'd like to meet up next time we are at Daresbury, I'd be happy 
>> to arrange that.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>> --- High End Compute http://highendcompute.co.uk @highendcompute
>>
>>
>>> -------- Original message -------- From: Jeremy Bennett
>>> Date:21/09/2015 11:40 (GMT+00:00) To: mageec at mageec.org Cc: Ed Jones 
>>> Subject: Re: [MAGEEC] Hello, and question from a newbie to the list
>>
>>> On 21/09/15 10:51, Trupti Kulkarni wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>>>> My name is Trupti and I work for GÉANT in Cambridge. I came across 
>>>> your project whilst searching and reading up on how to write 
>>>> energy-efficient software applications. MAGEEC has certainly piqued 
>>>> my interest, and after having gone through some materials and a 
>>>> YouTube video over the weekend, I would like to know if this is only 
>>>> for compilers that run embedded software programs? Or can this also 
>>>> be used for a user-written software program, which for the sake of 
>>>> simplicity, let’s say has been written in C/C++ ? For example, when 
>>>> one runs a C program through the data gathering process, can that C 
>>>> program be any piece of code (say a client-server IM chat 
>>>> application), or only for an embedded system?
>>
>>> Hi Trupti,
>>
>>> Glad to hear of your interest.
>>
>>> It's a general technique, although MAGEEC was focused on embedded 
>>> systems.  The follow on project, TSERO, is taking the same technology 
>>> and applying it to HPC - the complete opposite of embedded.
>>
>>> My colleage, Ed Jones, is leading Embecosm's work on this.  I've 
>>> copied his direct email address, since he may like to comment 
>>> further. If a phone discussion with Ed would be useful, I should be 
>>> happy to arrange that.
>>
>>> Hope this is useful.
>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>
>>
>>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Thanks, and I look forward to your reply.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Regards, Trupti Kulkarni GÉANT - Cambridge Office**
>>
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